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		<title>Comment on That Guy by ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 13:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for stopping by Grady. Glad to see you&#039;ve decided to start writing again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by Grady. Glad to see you&#8217;ve decided to start writing again.</p>
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		<title>Comment on That Guy by Grady Bauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grady Bauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray....great post.  I just wrote a post on my blog...first one in months.  I walked away for the same reasons...if I focus on IMB or SBC junk I get jaded and negative....and that does no one any good.  So I&#039;m going to try another go at it and leave their junk where it is.  I agree that we need somewhere to vent...but I don&#039;t want to be known as the negative guy....that&#039;s not why I&#039;m here.  So we&#039;ll see how it goes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray&#8230;.great post.  I just wrote a post on my blog&#8230;first one in months.  I walked away for the same reasons&#8230;if I focus on IMB or SBC junk I get jaded and negative&#8230;.and that does no one any good.  So I&#8217;m going to try another go at it and leave their junk where it is.  I agree that we need somewhere to vent&#8230;but I don&#8217;t want to be known as the negative guy&#8230;.that&#8217;s not why I&#8217;m here.  So we&#8217;ll see how it goes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on That Guy by ray</title>
		<link>http://www.culturaldichotomy.com/2010/07/08/that-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-2622</link>
		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments. While I agree that M&#039;s on the field need a place to vent I don&#039;t know that I&#039;m doing what&#039;s best for Kingdom growth by doing it here. I&#039;ve just gotten to the point that I don&#039;t care about the politics and shenanigans.

And to your second comment...large churches that do not have an outward focused DNA from the very beginning will always struggle to let the larger body know what&#039;s going on. While &quot;Missions&quot; is a nice &quot;program&quot; at your church, it&#039;s not a key part of the DNA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments. While I agree that M&#8217;s on the field need a place to vent I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;m doing what&#8217;s best for Kingdom growth by doing it here. I&#8217;ve just gotten to the point that I don&#8217;t care about the politics and shenanigans.</p>
<p>And to your second comment&#8230;large churches that do not have an outward focused DNA from the very beginning will always struggle to let the larger body know what&#8217;s going on. While &#8220;Missions&#8221; is a nice &#8220;program&#8221; at your church, it&#8217;s not a key part of the DNA.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Practical Contextualization by ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think it&#039;s universal, as the Gospel is universal. Interestingly enough, Ed&#039;s just written another article about contextualization. Again, I agree with what he&#039;s written...but the problem, again, is that there seems to be a lot of talk &quot;about&quot; contextualization, but very few examples of it given to the benefit of the reader.

One problem with contextualization is that it&#039;s based on the context of the culture in which you and I live. So to contextualize the Gospel here in Western Europe it will look different than contextualizing the Gospel in Texas. And maybe that&#039;s why so few give examples...because the examples are hyper-local.

Have a read of Ed&#039;s article and let me know your thoughts:
http://www.edstetzer.com/2010/07/calling-for-contextualization-2.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think it&#8217;s universal, as the Gospel is universal. Interestingly enough, Ed&#8217;s just written another article about contextualization. Again, I agree with what he&#8217;s written&#8230;but the problem, again, is that there seems to be a lot of talk &#8220;about&#8221; contextualization, but very few examples of it given to the benefit of the reader.</p>
<p>One problem with contextualization is that it&#8217;s based on the context of the culture in which you and I live. So to contextualize the Gospel here in Western Europe it will look different than contextualizing the Gospel in Texas. And maybe that&#8217;s why so few give examples&#8230;because the examples are hyper-local.</p>
<p>Have a read of Ed&#8217;s article and let me know your thoughts:<br />
<a href="http://www.edstetzer.com/2010/07/calling-for-contextualization-2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.edstetzer.com/2010/07/calling-for-contextualization-2.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Practical Contextualization by Meriwether Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meriwether Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 11:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By no means am I an authority on this subject.  Far from it.  My vocation is not ministry related, I haven&#039;t been to seminary, and I&#039;m a part of the American Church culture where I tithe like a good boy on Sunday, go home to my comfortable surroundings and do it all over again the next week.  

I guess the difference for me I guess is that I have felt very convicted over the past couple of years to change things.  I would guess that believers would all have this same conviction at one point or another and most ignore it.  In particular, I&#039;ve felt a burden for my community, my neighborhood.  Having lived in a somewhat diverse neighborhood for six years, I have only invested in one life.  I guess it&#039;s because I like him, he is easy to talk to, and I actually took the time to get to know him, without which I would not have been able to have true compassion for him and share biblical truth.

I&#039;m writing here because I would like to learn more about contextualization.  I have already taken the first step to get to know the other neighbors (other than surface conversation), and I would like to better prepare for some good discussion as our relationships progress.  Most of the published material seems to focus on international culture, yet I feel this is a universal topic.  Your thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By no means am I an authority on this subject.  Far from it.  My vocation is not ministry related, I haven&#8217;t been to seminary, and I&#8217;m a part of the American Church culture where I tithe like a good boy on Sunday, go home to my comfortable surroundings and do it all over again the next week.  </p>
<p>I guess the difference for me I guess is that I have felt very convicted over the past couple of years to change things.  I would guess that believers would all have this same conviction at one point or another and most ignore it.  In particular, I&#8217;ve felt a burden for my community, my neighborhood.  Having lived in a somewhat diverse neighborhood for six years, I have only invested in one life.  I guess it&#8217;s because I like him, he is easy to talk to, and I actually took the time to get to know him, without which I would not have been able to have true compassion for him and share biblical truth.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m writing here because I would like to learn more about contextualization.  I have already taken the first step to get to know the other neighbors (other than surface conversation), and I would like to better prepare for some good discussion as our relationships progress.  Most of the published material seems to focus on international culture, yet I feel this is a universal topic.  Your thoughts?</p>
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		<title>Comment on That Guy by Meriwether Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meriwether Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 11:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now on to my second comment.  I appreciate your posting, and like you, I also like discussing life including hearing about strategy and context.  These are motivating factors in my life, and I look forward to your future postings.  Sitting here in the middle of (insert paragraph #2 from above), I am one of those that doesn&#039;t often have a good conversation about personal strategy for incarnational living. 

I sit on a missions committee that is doing some great work, but the rest of the church won&#039;t hear about it because we only get one Sunday per year dedicated to missions.  I will say that our missions program has improved drastically in every area over the last five years, but we still have a long way to go.  FWIW, I think the missions program of a church should be the program that receives the most funding. Instead, it has the smallest budget and most churches only give the minimum to the CP.

Just a couple of the great things that are happening: 
 
-&#039;adopting&#039; an unreached people group on a remote island in Africa setting up 7 tribe churches and just approved bikes for the 7 pastors so they can join together privately for accountability, discipleship, and prayer.

-long term commitment to a city in Romania where there are no M&#039;s, but a huge hunger for the Gospel.  House church has gone from 3 attendees to 40 in one year.

I wish more than 5% of our church membership knew about these things.  Our missions director&#039;s policy is &#039;if  you have a heart for something/somewhere, share your heart, share your strategy, and we will support you 100%&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now on to my second comment.  I appreciate your posting, and like you, I also like discussing life including hearing about strategy and context.  These are motivating factors in my life, and I look forward to your future postings.  Sitting here in the middle of (insert paragraph #2 from above), I am one of those that doesn&#8217;t often have a good conversation about personal strategy for incarnational living. </p>
<p>I sit on a missions committee that is doing some great work, but the rest of the church won&#8217;t hear about it because we only get one Sunday per year dedicated to missions.  I will say that our missions program has improved drastically in every area over the last five years, but we still have a long way to go.  FWIW, I think the missions program of a church should be the program that receives the most funding. Instead, it has the smallest budget and most churches only give the minimum to the CP.</p>
<p>Just a couple of the great things that are happening: </p>
<p>-&#8217;adopting&#8217; an unreached people group on a remote island in Africa setting up 7 tribe churches and just approved bikes for the 7 pastors so they can join together privately for accountability, discipleship, and prayer.</p>
<p>-long term commitment to a city in Romania where there are no M&#8217;s, but a huge hunger for the Gospel.  House church has gone from 3 attendees to 40 in one year.</p>
<p>I wish more than 5% of our church membership knew about these things.  Our missions director&#8217;s policy is &#8216;if  you have a heart for something/somewhere, share your heart, share your strategy, and we will support you 100%&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on That Guy by Meriwether Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meriwether Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice posting, and orthopraxy tag.  I agree with everything in the second paragraph.  One thought on this, I think that IMB posts, especially those about policy and finances, are going to garner much more feedback in the comments section. 

To your point, M&#039;s should enter into life and truth discussions, and they do daily.  It is a picture of someone living out their calling.  They not only feel encouraged to do so, it&#039;s something they do everyday.  What they are not encouraged to do is share their opinions, so the only forum in which they can express their concern for the SBC, IMB, or similar issues, is an anonymous comment on a related post.

History has shown that the IMB is not favorable to dissent.  I think that is why you see an increase on comments on administrative topics.  While it may be unproductive or a waste of time to vent on these things, if you don&#039;t have this venue (as an IMB M), I would assume you would just suppress your feelings. That&#039;s not good either.  So, I think these discussions still need to take place.  The unfortunate thing is that the IMB has not created any &#039;open door&#039; platform to share concerns, etc.  Until that happens, the only way for M&#039;s to be heard will be in the comments section of blogs, in hopes that their concerns will gain attention and incite change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice posting, and orthopraxy tag.  I agree with everything in the second paragraph.  One thought on this, I think that IMB posts, especially those about policy and finances, are going to garner much more feedback in the comments section. </p>
<p>To your point, M&#8217;s should enter into life and truth discussions, and they do daily.  It is a picture of someone living out their calling.  They not only feel encouraged to do so, it&#8217;s something they do everyday.  What they are not encouraged to do is share their opinions, so the only forum in which they can express their concern for the SBC, IMB, or similar issues, is an anonymous comment on a related post.</p>
<p>History has shown that the IMB is not favorable to dissent.  I think that is why you see an increase on comments on administrative topics.  While it may be unproductive or a waste of time to vent on these things, if you don&#8217;t have this venue (as an IMB M), I would assume you would just suppress your feelings. That&#8217;s not good either.  So, I think these discussions still need to take place.  The unfortunate thing is that the IMB has not created any &#8216;open door&#8217; platform to share concerns, etc.  Until that happens, the only way for M&#8217;s to be heard will be in the comments section of blogs, in hopes that their concerns will gain attention and incite change.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Of Monetary Concern by That Guy &#124; cultural dichotomy</title>
		<link>http://www.culturaldichotomy.com/2009/11/04/of-monetary-concern/comment-page-1/#comment-2585</link>
		<dc:creator>That Guy &#124; cultural dichotomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 22:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in point&#8230;last November I vented a little about the monetary situation within the IMB. That post generated a nice little discussion in the comments. I enjoyed it. And people were interested. But [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in point&#8230;last November I vented a little about the monetary situation within the IMB. That post generated a nice little discussion in the comments. I enjoyed it. And people were interested. But [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Short Term Equals No Good by Kari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post.

No commitment (whether 2 weeks or 2 years) is insignificant if it&#039;s in obedience to what God has called you to do at that point. 

And who knows...maybe two short-termers will meet on the field - say somewhere in Africa - fall in love, get married and come back long term  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post.</p>
<p>No commitment (whether 2 weeks or 2 years) is insignificant if it&#8217;s in obedience to what God has called you to do at that point. </p>
<p>And who knows&#8230;maybe two short-termers will meet on the field &#8211; say somewhere in Africa &#8211; fall in love, get married and come back long term  <img src='http://www.culturaldichotomy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Short Term Equals No Good by ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought you might have been interested in my conversation. I think the key to your time in France was the over generalization and over spiritualization of your long term strategy, which you pointed out. Based on my time with the American church planter in France I don&#039;t see him coming back to the States anytime soon. He is extremely confident in his approach. He&#039;s been in France for a while. He comes across like he&#039;s got the French figured out...what works, what doesn&#039;t. I really do hope he&#039;s able to plant churches that plant churches. I just wish he would reevaluate the effectiveness of short term work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought you might have been interested in my conversation. I think the key to your time in France was the over generalization and over spiritualization of your long term strategy, which you pointed out. Based on my time with the American church planter in France I don&#8217;t see him coming back to the States anytime soon. He is extremely confident in his approach. He&#8217;s been in France for a while. He comes across like he&#8217;s got the French figured out&#8230;what works, what doesn&#8217;t. I really do hope he&#8217;s able to plant churches that plant churches. I just wish he would reevaluate the effectiveness of short term work.</p>
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